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First published @ www.searchlores.org in Autumn 2003 ~   Updated by fravia+, March 2009, version 13.5 | ||
[Introduction] [Bypassing copyrights hassles] [Names, names everywhere] [Where to search for images] [Formats & downloads] [Images searching: various tools and repositories] [Images searching: main engines] [Death of the "edu" trick] [Altosax's "not-image" trick] [Finding images: a discussion] [Images' databases] [Images' essays] [Images' semantics] [Stalking through images] |
Labs and workshops Searching images without even knowing their names [The Caravaggio example] [faf_task.htm] ~ [ra_task.htm] [loki's emperor's clothes] [Jorge Luis Borges' tomb] Finding and understanding images without even knowing their names and purposes "The chick on the river" |
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A small digression:
images as they should be There are some exceptions, though: for instance "googleearth" (of all places) offers for free some incredibly detailed reproductions of (few: only 14) paintings from the Prado Museum. These images have a resolution of 14,000 megapixels (some 1,400 times greater than a picture taken on a standard -good- 10 megapixel camera). You have to install "googleearth" first, then go there to "layers", then geographic, then prado. You can of course then use Gimp to grab the details you are interested in. Worth seeing in order to understand how ridiculous are the attempts of those that want to "sell" reproductions and how beautiful the web could be, if only the morons that manage our museums as if they were private property would for once do their job and spread culture instead. These images were sewn together digitally from more than 8,000 high-resolution photographs of sections of the paintings. |
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Re: How do you search for images? (26/04/01 18.20.28)
in your case you do not have any filename; nor, byte size, pixel size, or any alt statement to try to follow you must sit down and write up a list of everything you recall about the picture... you must repaint it with descriptive words (this does not mean you are going to find it; this is just how i would suggest you 'proceed to [try to] find it' what is the picture you remember? what is in the picture you remember? Build the picture with 'words' example: A picture of children jumping rope are they on school grounds? at home? in a meadow? whats going ON in the picture? some keywords might be: children kids jumping rope {children} playing school recess you must be careful which keywords you use in an engine such as googgle if you put children and kids in the same line and it does not FIND BOTH of those words on some exisiting web page then IT will NOT give you a return/ or it might find 10 hits with children and kids but find 1000 for chilren [without kids] or find 300 for kids [without children] When you have a GOOD idea of what you want to look for the less HITS is always better for sifting and narrowing down... but in your case the more hits the better because you do not know what you are looking for...why do i think it is better? well because by looking at the returns i skim and see if I can garner some better more meaningful list of words that connect to [children playground school jumping rope ect ect ect] what kind of dress style were these children in in the painting i remember? ohhhhhh very old time/ not modern/ are they jumping rope on pavement? brick? dirt? gravel? these can be indicative of time periods also... ect How old could the painting be? go look up the history of rope jumping...[Im going to just make this up cause i don't have time to search it out] but lets say u search it and it comes back saying--- and the first instance of childreen jumping rope was because of this or that event and occurred in this or that country in 1734 ok well now we know that unless your painter was orson wells who could conjure up children skipping rope that did not exist yet--that he was probably born after 1734...probably didn't start his starving artist carrer until he was 20 so probably an artist after 1754 plus+ or minus ... 300 years of artists doesn't narrow it down for you much...but you see where i am heading? at least you eliminated all paintings before 1734 :) Now what artists specialized in paintings of kids? [perhaps so; perhaps not--- don't get stuck on thinking he specialized (OR SHE!)] add art/artist/paintings of to word list...kindasorta... its hard to say because adding just ONE too many [as well as an incorrect one] words can completely change your return/s... whats in the background? forest rivers lakes mountains --- European? American? anyway i could go on and on ... the idea here is to BUILD a word list that describes your quarry this probably will explain it better: http://www.searchlores.org/ima__sea.htm good luck!!! good hunt!!! |
Re: Re: How do you search for images? (27/04/01 09.33.29)
I guess there are some questions you should ask yourself BEFORE beginning your searching task. 1) Was that picture of a famous artist ? (whether or not you recall his name) like a painting or something alike ? 2) Was it found in a site dealing with that sort of pictures (whether or not you can remember the url) or a commercial site? 3)Was it of high quality ? (meaning over 200-300kbytes) or a small one? ..-100kb? I guess that if your answer to all above questions is something like: 1) No 2)No 3)Small I'm sorry to say that you probably have NO chance of finding it (except if you are tooooooo lucky:). I dont have the time right now to explain why the above pointers (plus some others) are of great importance (but i will in a short kind of essay in the near future) but i've been dealing with the "how to find pictures" task a long time now. p.s Rainbows tactic is VERY CORRECT (grammatical anomaly here eheh) but, i think he will agree, that tactic will give you more possibilities into finding your picture if the answer on the above three questions is affirmative. His suggestions is THE way to navigate throught your results (after you have had a succesful query with small noise analogy that is) into extracting the picture you want (sort of like evaluating your results - results that you KNOW one of them should include your target). This post might seem a little fuzzy, but im on a deadline here eheh. I guess my pointers helped you a bit. I'll see you all later :) |
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Where does the image on searchlores itself, at the bottom of: Young slaves' behaviour, wabi, sabi and Levi's Jeans, (essay is called
"How they exploit stupidity - part 1: The Emperor's New Clothes"), come from?
(http://www.searchlores.orgimages/emperor2.jpg) | |
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Let's search.
google: emperor andersen Page 2, that crown looks familiar It's a cover of the book from the Starbright Fondation, as amazon told me. Published by Harcourt Brace & Co In this bold and hilarious retelling, Hans Christian Andersen's classic fairy tale, The Emperor's New Clothes is re-imagined by an all-star celebrity cast. Among the writers are stars from the big and small screens, stage and music, as well as many other beloved personalities. Each celebrity contribution is illustrated by artists who have created some of the most treasured classics of American literature http://www.starbright.org/emperors/bios/artists.html That makes a lot of illustrators.. :) I want the one who did the cover. I'm pretty sure it's the picture from fravia's essay. Same number of balls on the crown, same color, same shadows.. amazon allow to view some scanned pages from the book. let's have a look at the front flap Jacket Illustration by William Joyce and Quentin Blake let's fire google : Quentin Blake : doesn't seem to be the artist that did the cover image. he probably did the front flap. : looks better. more colours. google : william joyce emperor bingo. Just some comments about the previous search: some things valuable out of the pure 'technical' stuff. once the image has a context, it's always easier to fish it out of the web, mostly because the image search engine index the pictures using the information they can gather on their pages (the 'physical' context). usually, if you have only the picture, you need to build that context : making list of identified objects on the picture, colours, positions, subject, impressions etc.. There are plenty of methods to read and describe images. I'll try to find a good ressource. Combined with the other concrete informations (size, format, filename..) you can think about a method, and forge your queries. BUT, if the image is provided within a context, you can take some shortcuts. In the case of the emperor's clothes, once the connection with Andersen was made, most of the problem is solved. It's often the case with riddles, every detail count :) I'm sure we could write/find/compile methods to read/describe/find images. But some may prefer the chaotic way. Thoughts ? ~ Another comment : we should take a closer look to amazon. it has more and more interesting features. the scanned pages of books are one, jeff and vvf found some audio oriented tricks, and recently they began to provide a 'full text search' for books.. loki |
the original is here (11/11/03 17:19:59) | |
Artist: William Joyce Source: The Emperor's New Clothes Image Size: 11 x 16 1/2 inches Medium: acrylic Price: $15000 (unframed) http://www.storyopolis.com/portfolio-dbp-detail.asp?ArtistID=135&ArtID=162 |
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Image Searching - What You See Is What You Get: Science Images on the Web (18/11/03 14:51:47) | |
What You See Is What You Get: Science Images on the Web A selection of image-rich web sites in a variety of scientific disciplines is offered as a starting point for reference questions and educational programs. Tools for keeping up with new image resources are introduced. This review does not cover searching general World Wide Web sites or general commercial image databases for science images. Already reviewed, and classified ;) For evaluation purpose, here is the path i walked : Simple combing :) Gerverau is the author of a book i have, but in french, dealing with description and analysis of images. He is president of the International Association of Museums of History, curator of the Museum of Contemporary History (Paris) and director of the Cinema Museum (Paris). He wrote some scientific books on the subject of images and is the owner of imagesmag.net, a website dealing with research about image. So, my opinion was that he is a sort of authority in that domain : Searching on google : gervereau analysis images hit n°8 : http://web.usal.es/~alar/Bibweb/Materias/I/imagenes.htm A commented bookmark, wich contains the WYSIWYG:SI ressources. That's it. I'll see if there are others gems in these, i'm still searching for good method of image analysis :) ----- On a side note, still about images, i heard this morning in my 'IT and sociology' (i don't know how to name it) course about GETTY IMAGES and CORBIS. You (I) must have a look at what those company are in.. More later. |
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Brutality and compassion are BOTH presents in the above image, for instance. But it makes an helluja of a difference if you show the left or the right part of it :-( |